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    Are these the updated or old M3 lights?

    I know the newer M3s 2011+ have updated lights which sort of have an eye brow on the top I think it's LEF

    But judging from the photos of my soon to be purchased 2011 M3 from MMW, I don't think these are the new lights are they.

    Can you please confirm?

    I really hate the older lights which were yellowish instead of white (HID) in the newer ones










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    aren't these the newer ones? maybe my vision is not that good.....but they seem a bit different than the above image to me:



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    hmmm, looking at the below video, seems like the 2011 has those yellowish lights not the white HID ones :(

    https://youtu.be/dFva5Z8hio8
    Last edited by Phoenix; 08-07-2016, 10:53 PM.

    #2
    ok here is the comparison I meant.......does the first 2 images of the car I am bubying from MMW have the updated or old lights? They seem like the old ones to me but I am not sure, I thought the new lights came in 2011:





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    These are the car options according to the VIN but I have no clue what half of them mean


    Vehicle information

    VIN long WBSKG910XBE568973

    Type code KG91

    Type M3 (EUR)

    Dev. series E92 (M3)

    Line 3

    Body type COUPE

    Steering LL

    Door count 2

    Engine S65

    Cubical capacity 4.00

    Power 309

    Transmision HECK

    Gearbox MECH

    Colour MINERALWEISS METALLIC (A96)

    Upholstery ERW.LE.NOVILLO/H2 FUCHSROT (NDH2)

    Prod. date 2010-10-06




    Order options
    No. Description
    1CB CO2 CONTENT

    1CD BRAKE ENERGY REGENERATION

    2MD M DRIVE

    2MK M DCT WITH DRIVELOGIC

    2MT M ALLOY WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE 220 W MB

    223 DYNAMIC DAMPER CONTROL

    3AW WASHER NOZZLES WITHOUT HEATING

    313 EXTERIOR MIRROR PACKAGE

    322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM

    358 CLIMATE COMFORT WINDSCREEN

    4AE ARMREST FRONT RETRACTABLE

    4MY INT.TR.FIN. BLACK LTR. CARBON STRUCTURE

    415 SUNBLIND FOR REAR WINDOW

    423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR

    428 WARNING TRIANGLE

    470 CHILD SEAT ISOFIX ATTACHMENT

    5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

    508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

    521 RAIN SENSOR

    563 LIGHTS PACKAGE

    6AA BMW TELESERVICES

    6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES

    6VC CONTROL COMBOX

    601 TV FUNCTION

    609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL

    612 BMW ASSIST

    615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION

    616 BMW ONLINE

    620 VOICE INPUT SYSTEM

    633 PREP.MOB. PH. BUSINESS BLUET.INTERF.

    672 CD CHANGER BMW FOR 6 CDS

    688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM

    698 AREA-CODE 2

    760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME

    761 INDIVIDUAL SUN PROTECTION GLAZING

    8A3 LANGUAGE VERSION ARABIC

    8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE

    8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE

    8SX PROVIDER CONTROL, TELEMATICS 1

    8TL DAYTIME LIGHTS FRONT AND REAR AKTIV

    8TN DAYTIME DRIVING LIGHTS SELECTABLE B

    818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH

    822 GULF VERSION

    845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING

    850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT

    864 OVERSEAS/DEALER DIRECTORY

    880 ENGLISH / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION

    887 ARABIC / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION

    9AA EXTERNAL SKIN PROTECTION

    925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE

    993 MODEL YEAR CODE




    Series options
    No. Description
    431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D

    459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY

    502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM

    522 XENON LIGHT

    534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

    540 CRUISE CONTROL

    548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING

    775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE

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      #3
      On The right side is the US spec and on the left side is the Euro Spec. You sir have the Euro Spec. that's the difference. and i personally hate the US spec it looks dead.
      Last edited by springz; 09-07-2016, 06:56 AM. Reason: Correcting sides.
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        #4
        Hi Phoenix,

        You are comparing a normal 3 series of different production years with regards to the headlights.

        the M3 never got those upgrades (eyebrow or white angel eyes. The only update was done for the LCI version which had tail light upgrades (which i believe you've got).

        Cheers...
        Current
        E92 M3 - Mineral White
        F80 M3 - SilverStone

        Past
        E36 318is
        E39 540i ///M sport
        VW CC
        E46 M3 - Frozen White

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          #5
          Originally posted by Wazif View Post
          Hi Phoenix,

          You are comparing a normal 3 series of different production years with regards to the headlights.

          the M3 never got those upgrades (eyebrow or white angel eyes. The only update was done for the LCI version which had tail light upgrades (which i believe you've got).

          Cheers...
          I believe these Headlight Came on the US Specs only? Correct me if im mistaken
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          E92 335i 09 - Current
          E36 320i | Mods: Rieger kit, Matt Black Grills, BBS Rims, ACS Spoiler, Xenon HID, K&N Intake, Fox Exhaust system, MoMo Steering wheel , LED Angel Eyes - Current
          E30 M-Tech 325i - Sold
          E23 735i - Sold

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            #6
            Originally posted by springz View Post
            I believe these Headlight Came on the US Specs only? Correct me if im mistaken
            US spec 335i or M3?

            Dont think the M3 got any headlight upgrades during its life cycle.
            Current
            E92 M3 - Mineral White
            F80 M3 - SilverStone

            Past
            E36 318is
            E39 540i ///M sport
            VW CC
            E46 M3 - Frozen White

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              #7
              E9x M3 NEVER had a headlight upgrade. They only received Taillights LCI Upgrade after production cars of 2009.

              E9x 3xx Had an LCI FaceLift and LCI Taillights on production cars after 2009.
              Drive To The Satisfaction... A Dreamer's Pursuit

              2013 F10 M5 - M Drivers Package
              Alpine White / Sakhir Orange

              Mods: ZCP Kidney Grilles

              2009 E92 M3 - M Drivers Package
              Melbourne Red / Imola Red [Manual] (SOLD)

              Mods: Full Catless AlphaMale Performance Valvetronic Exhaust | Macht Schnell Stage 2 Air Intake | H&R Lowering Springs | ECS Tuning Spacers | Carbon Fiber Front Splitters | Glossy Black Kidney Grilles | Plasti-Dipped Fender Grilles | LCI Tail Lights | Carbon Fiber H-Style Diffuser | Stage 2 Tune (Simon MotorSport) | Macht Schnell Pulleys | Carbon Fiber LowKick Trunk Spoiler

              2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black / Imola Red (BLOWN)
              Mods: Rear Smoked LEDs | Front Smoked Corner Lights | 4300K Phillips 85122+ Bulbs | BMC Drop-In Panel | Matt Black Kidney Grilles | 7500K CCFL | Matt Black Side Grilles | FOX SS Muffler | VIEZU Remap | CSL Carbon Fiber Splitters | EvoSport Under Drive Pulley Kit | K&N Cold Air Intake | K&N Scoops | Hawk Carbon-Ceramic Brake Pads | R1Concepts Zinc-Coated Cross-Drilled Rotors | Agency Power Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines | Hyper Black M3 Competition Rims | FXR Bi-Xenon Projectors w/ Clear Lenses | 70% 3M Tinting
              1997 E39 528i - Champagne Beige / Sand Beige (SOLD)
              Mods: Front & Rear OEM Facelift | K&N Cold Air Intake | Straight Pipes | MAF Delete | Custom Made Air Intake Elbow | 3.15 LSD Differential | SplitFire Spark Plugs | E36-7 Z3 OEM 17" Rims | 50% 3M Tinting

              Need Assistance?
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                #8
                M3s never got headlight upgrades after 2000

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wazif View Post
                  US spec 335i or M3?

                  Dont think the M3 got any headlight upgrades during its life cycle.
                  Right, I was watching a video last night of the BMW 335iS and it has different headlights, they have that eye brow on them and are fully white HID lights not orangy. I think the M3 as you said didn't get upgraded headlights just LED tail lights

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                    #10
                    Guys does applying window tint have any adverse effects on the auto dimming mirrors or the automatic windshield wipers sensors?

                    What about the small sun visor window tint that people apply on the front windshield? Or do you think that looks bad?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                      Guys does applying window tint have any adverse effects on the auto dimming mirrors or the automatic windshield wipers sensors?

                      What about the small sun visor window tint that people apply on the front windshield? Or do you think that looks bad?
                      Applying tint will affect your auto-dimming, since the amount of light entering the car will be less (depends on how much the tint % is).

                      The small strip on the front window is down to preference. I have it one car. Helps if you are driving a lot during the day.
                      Current
                      E92 M3 - Mineral White
                      F80 M3 - SilverStone

                      Past
                      E36 318is
                      E39 540i ///M sport
                      VW CC
                      E46 M3 - Frozen White

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                        #12
                        As said before M3 has never had upgraded headlights, but if you really hate the yellowish colour for the original angel eyes you can still buy these LED upgrades from the internet and will make a much nicer effect pretty close to the restyling of the 3 series after 2009 or the newer 5 series bmw.

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                        Btw I have an extra set for of lights if you are interested as I did a custom upgrade on my M3 E93 buying some really cool aftermarket full led angel eyes. Got them installed by a professional though as you need to open the actual headlight, but now looks amazing! That's if you are really into perfection ;)

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                          #13
                          Just to correct the above statements...

                          Having tint on your car will NOT affect the Auto-Dim function for the side mirrors. It will only affect the Center Rear View Mirror a tiny bit.

                          Having tint on your car will NOT affect the Auto Wiper function as the tint will not come between the sensor and the windshield, UNLESS you're installing it from the outside, which is highly not recommended.
                          Drive To The Satisfaction... A Dreamer's Pursuit

                          2013 F10 M5 - M Drivers Package
                          Alpine White / Sakhir Orange

                          Mods: ZCP Kidney Grilles

                          2009 E92 M3 - M Drivers Package
                          Melbourne Red / Imola Red [Manual] (SOLD)

                          Mods: Full Catless AlphaMale Performance Valvetronic Exhaust | Macht Schnell Stage 2 Air Intake | H&R Lowering Springs | ECS Tuning Spacers | Carbon Fiber Front Splitters | Glossy Black Kidney Grilles | Plasti-Dipped Fender Grilles | LCI Tail Lights | Carbon Fiber H-Style Diffuser | Stage 2 Tune (Simon MotorSport) | Macht Schnell Pulleys | Carbon Fiber LowKick Trunk Spoiler

                          2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black / Imola Red (BLOWN)
                          Mods: Rear Smoked LEDs | Front Smoked Corner Lights | 4300K Phillips 85122+ Bulbs | BMC Drop-In Panel | Matt Black Kidney Grilles | 7500K CCFL | Matt Black Side Grilles | FOX SS Muffler | VIEZU Remap | CSL Carbon Fiber Splitters | EvoSport Under Drive Pulley Kit | K&N Cold Air Intake | K&N Scoops | Hawk Carbon-Ceramic Brake Pads | R1Concepts Zinc-Coated Cross-Drilled Rotors | Agency Power Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines | Hyper Black M3 Competition Rims | FXR Bi-Xenon Projectors w/ Clear Lenses | 70% 3M Tinting
                          1997 E39 528i - Champagne Beige / Sand Beige (SOLD)
                          Mods: Front & Rear OEM Facelift | K&N Cold Air Intake | Straight Pipes | MAF Delete | Custom Made Air Intake Elbow | 3.15 LSD Differential | SplitFire Spark Plugs | E36-7 Z3 OEM 17" Rims | 50% 3M Tinting

                          Need Assistance?
                          eMail:
                          Rafik@bmwclubuae.com


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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RAFiK View Post
                            Just to correct the above statements...

                            Having tint on your car will NOT affect the Auto-Dim function for the side mirrors. It will only affect the Center Rear View Mirror a tiny bit.
                            Beg to differ regarding the above... The sensor for both Centre and Rear are connected as far as i have experienced on my car. The visible hole in the rear mirror assess the amount of light entering the sensor and dims both the rear and side mirrors simultaneously. You can see the simultaneous reaction when you flash a light onto the centre sensor or turn on the reading lights in the front of the car.

                            Therefore, if you tint the rear window (depending on the tint %), the amount of light entering the cabin reduces thereby affecting the degree to which the auto-dimming functions works.
                            Current
                            E92 M3 - Mineral White
                            F80 M3 - SilverStone

                            Past
                            E36 318is
                            E39 540i ///M sport
                            VW CC
                            E46 M3 - Frozen White

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wazif View Post
                              Beg to differ regarding the above... The sensor for both Centre and Rear are connected as far as i have experienced on my car. The visible hole in the rear mirror assess the amount of light entering the sensor and dims both the rear and side mirrors simultaneously. You can see the simultaneous reaction when you flash a light onto the centre sensor or turn on the reading lights in the front of the car.

                              Therefore, if you tint the rear window (depending on the tint %), the amount of light entering the cabin reduces thereby affecting the degree to which the auto-dimming functions works.

                              Bring a Halogen strong flashlight, point it at your side mirror and watch it dim while the rest don't. They're not linked together as I've tested this before.
                              Drive To The Satisfaction... A Dreamer's Pursuit

                              2013 F10 M5 - M Drivers Package
                              Alpine White / Sakhir Orange

                              Mods: ZCP Kidney Grilles

                              2009 E92 M3 - M Drivers Package
                              Melbourne Red / Imola Red [Manual] (SOLD)

                              Mods: Full Catless AlphaMale Performance Valvetronic Exhaust | Macht Schnell Stage 2 Air Intake | H&R Lowering Springs | ECS Tuning Spacers | Carbon Fiber Front Splitters | Glossy Black Kidney Grilles | Plasti-Dipped Fender Grilles | LCI Tail Lights | Carbon Fiber H-Style Diffuser | Stage 2 Tune (Simon MotorSport) | Macht Schnell Pulleys | Carbon Fiber LowKick Trunk Spoiler

                              2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black / Imola Red (BLOWN)
                              Mods: Rear Smoked LEDs | Front Smoked Corner Lights | 4300K Phillips 85122+ Bulbs | BMC Drop-In Panel | Matt Black Kidney Grilles | 7500K CCFL | Matt Black Side Grilles | FOX SS Muffler | VIEZU Remap | CSL Carbon Fiber Splitters | EvoSport Under Drive Pulley Kit | K&N Cold Air Intake | K&N Scoops | Hawk Carbon-Ceramic Brake Pads | R1Concepts Zinc-Coated Cross-Drilled Rotors | Agency Power Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines | Hyper Black M3 Competition Rims | FXR Bi-Xenon Projectors w/ Clear Lenses | 70% 3M Tinting
                              1997 E39 528i - Champagne Beige / Sand Beige (SOLD)
                              Mods: Front & Rear OEM Facelift | K&N Cold Air Intake | Straight Pipes | MAF Delete | Custom Made Air Intake Elbow | 3.15 LSD Differential | SplitFire Spark Plugs | E36-7 Z3 OEM 17" Rims | 50% 3M Tinting

                              Need Assistance?
                              eMail:
                              Rafik@bmwclubuae.com


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