Reliable, cheap and fun to drive car?

[Damian]

Hey there,

I need a car for daily commute like 30km a day. TBH I could buy a new car and pay installments but already two friends told me the depreciation would be too high.

I used to have a 2009 135i m sports package, 3.0 twin-turbo manual... loved that car.

I want to avoid high to maintain cars... already buying a used one is kind of a gamble so I wanted to know what can be had for 50k ideally and less than 100k if it justifies the price. Cars other than a BMW can be (if allowed in the forum).

Priorities:
- Good resale value
- Fun to drive
- For daily drive...
- No known issues/expensive repairs to be done/etc...
- We have another car.. so no need to go shopping with it, no kids.

[Phoenix]

Hey there,

I need a car for daily commute like 30km a day. TBH I could buy a new car and pay installments but already two friends told me the depreciation would be too high.

I used to have a 2009 135i m sports package, 3.0 twin-turbo manual... loved that car.

I want to avoid high to maintain cars... already buying a used one is kind of a gamble so I wanted to know what can be had for 50k ideally and less than 100k if it justifies the price. Cars other than a BMW can be (if allowed in the forum).

Priorities:
- Good resale value
- Fun to drive
- For daily drive...
- No known issues/expensive repairs to be done/etc...
- We have another car.. so no need to go shopping with it, no kids.

How about a 2013 Toyota 86? they go around for sale from 50K to 70K depending on the mileage and condition. Really fun car to drive but not a lot of power, just enough for some fun. that won't give you a lot of maintenance issues and is cheap to fix if anything goes wrong although I'm a BMW only guy. The other choice would be a 2009/2010 M3 E92 if you can find a clean one for around 90-100K. Now that's REAL FUN and you probably won't lose a lot when you sell it since it's already depreciated so much.

[springz]

Evo all the way :$

[Wazif]

The suzuki swift seems to be favorite among the local crowd :)

Or go with a BMW with a NA engine 4/6 cylinder...those blocks are bullet proof

[Damian]

I'm just afraid of the E92 if something breaks... not only for the money but for the time. The 86 seems there are many good maintained and for 50k not much to complain about. Subaru BRZ would be the same?

The E92 I saw are all AT... is that ok? I drove a 09 M5 that had the DSG transmission..

Suzuki is FW... and EVO is not my type I think (too big).

[Wazif]

the 2009 M5 had the SMG transmission which is different from the DCT that you find on the E92 M3. The DCT is very reliable. Not heard of any complaints with it even after running FI kits.

[Damian]

I'm surprised no one recommended a Cayman.. any reason?

[Phoenix]

I'm just afraid of the E92 if something breaks... not only for the money but for the time. The 86 seems there are many good maintained and for 50k not much to complain about. Subaru BRZ would be the same?

The E92 I saw are all AT... is that ok? I drove a 09 M5 that had the DSG transmission..

Suzuki is FW... and EVO is not my type I think (too big).

1) The Subaru BRZ is the same with a few slight differences like the exterior lights and maybe a small few things here and there interior wise. They are the same car essentially. Pick your brand. I'd go for the BRZ personally.


This video is a comparison between them although it's for the recent models, but should give you an idea about the differences that you may expect. See: All the Differences Between the BRZ and FR-S - YouTube


2) There is no E92 M3 Automatic. it's a DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission) which is an automated manual without the clutch pedal. Heck, on my 2017 M4 if I check the VIN on bimmer.work : VIN Decoder for BMW , it states that my transmission is MANUAL even though it's a DCT. In the options below it states that it's an / 2MK M Dct With Drivelogic


3) Suzuki's not my cup of tea :D

[Damian]

1) The Subaru BRZ is the same with a few slight differences like the exterior lights and maybe a small few things here and there interior wise. They are the same car essentially. Pick your brand. I'd go for the BRZ personally.


This video is a comparison between them although it's for the recent models, but should give you an idea about the differences that you may expect. See: All the Differences Between the BRZ and FR-S - YouTube


2) There is no E92 M3 Automatic. it's a DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission) which is an automated manual without the clutch pedal. Heck, on my 2017 M4 if I check the VIN on bimmer.work : VIN Decoder for BMW , it states that my transmission is MANUAL even though it's a DCT. In the options below it states that it's an / 2MK M Dct With Drivelogic


3) Suzuki's not my cup of tea :D

Hey, thanks a lot for the advice and congrats on your M4! Hell of a beast!

Are there any guidelines here in the forum to classify a car as clean? There is one M3 selling in the forum at a whooping 200k, I guess it must be perfect, but for a 2009/2010.... what millage should I look for? What should have been repaired? Online there seems to be nothing of significance... maybe main bearings?

I want to justify spending double for an M3 rather than a 86 :w00t:

[Wazif]

I'm surprised no one recommended a Cayman.. any reason?

Always thought the porsche's were more to maintain than BMW's :P

[Damian]

Always thought the porsche's were more to maintain than BMW's :P

I think you can find Porsche cars with extended warranty and then extended it over and over till you die... I'm not sure how much it costs nowadays, there are even workshops that offer their own warranty after inspection. I might as well use taxi and avoid all the perks ;P

[ownz]

Lexus LS430 then.. :D
Cheap maintenance
In your price range
Fun to drive (on highway :D)
good resale value, on demand to the local

[Damian]

Lexus LS430 then.. :D
Cheap maintenance
In your price range
Fun to drive (on highway :D)
good resale value, on demand to the local

LOL, definitely not my type.

[ibrahim-m3]

Porsche extended warranty is around 6 or 7k aed per year and you can extend it with porsche maximum for 10 years from the car model year or if you reach 200000 km and it has to be already under warranty to be able to extend or they will check the car and if it needs anything fixed they will make you pay for it and then you can get the extended warranty. Also bare in mind the porsche extended warranty doesn't cover your suspension brake rotors and catalytic.


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[Phoenix]

Always thought the porsche's were more to maintain than BMW's :P

This. It will drain a hole in your pocket to maintain

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Hey, thanks a lot for the advice and congrats on your M4! Hell of a beast!

Are there any guidelines here in the forum to classify a car as clean? There is one M3 selling in the forum at a whooping 200k, I guess it must be perfect, but for a 2009/2010.... what millage should I look for? What should have been repaired? Online there seems to be nothing of significance... maybe main bearings?

I want to justify spending double for an M3 rather than a 86 :w00t:

1) find a BMW that you like
2) Take it to Octane Car Service and have a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) done for it
3) If they say it's clean, it's CLEAN!
4) If they find minor issues that can be fixed, ask how much would they cost and use that to negotiate the price with the owner
5) If they say it has major issues, pass and look for another

The downside of this, you will loss around 700 dhs or whatever they charge for the PPI but at least you wouldn't have bought a headache.

I was gonna buy a 2011 M3 Coupe from Munich Motor Works that looked brand new from the outside and interior and had a 6 months Munich Motor Works warranty, I put a downpayment on it but after a week, I had a bad feeling so I took it for a PPI at Octane despite it looking so clean and having a warranty. Turned out to be that it had a very severe rear end accident where it was fixed at some cheap garage who didn't even put the bumpers properly so they weren't properly sealed that caused water to get in and the entire rear part was rusted from the inside. They saved me a big misery! Always trust these guys